Vedic Astrology: Michael Shermer vs Jeffrey Armstrong
Posted by admin on Oct 12, 2008
In a scenario set up to debunk astrology, Jeffrey Armstrong completely outshines Michael Shermer in a way that any scientist should say is “statistically interesting.”
The SCENARIO: Jeffrey reads NINE charts in about TWENTY minutes. Most charts are usually given an hour of study each. EXPERIMENT I: face-to-face reading with a skeptic. The subject, afterwards, said Jeffrey’s reading “officially blew me away.” EXPERIMENT II: Nine “blind” readings. Results: 105 of 137—or 77%—of Jeffrey’s statements deemed accurate, ALL scores 63% or over, high of 89%. EXPERIMENT III: The kicker. Two of the nine, unbeknownst to Jeffrey or the subjects, have their charts switched. Accuracy rating drops to 38 and 21% respectively. Switched back to true charts, accuracy goes to 94 and 92%.
Duration : 0:9:28
I would further …
I would further like to see twins done. My Father and Uncle are twins, with very different personalities. True, Dad had 4 boys and my Uncle had 3, but my uncle is religious, divorced, remarried, a step father, has a terrible relationship with his kids, owns a boat, loves las vegas. My father is an atheist, a war veteran, married for 36 years, better familial relations (but not perfect of course) etc. Their personalities are vastly different despite their common birthday and place.
As for the other …
As for the other readings, some of the “wrongs” are REALLY wrong and many are just plain subjective. Who would say they were ugly? Of course everyone wants to think of themselves as handsome. Who thinks of themselves as selfish? LOTS of women love to dance. To me, the “right” answers were often very subjective or general. I want to see all the readings and listen to all the reactions.
Obviously you have …
Obviously you have never been to India, or were not paying attention. Half the men have mistresses yet paradoxically, girls are aborted at a much higher rate than male fetuses. Further,many fruit bearing plants HAVE female and male sexes, so they do have “mothers”, just not in the sense animals do. 3rd, India is a very poor, very dirty place where hinduism and vedic philosophy have encouraged an oppressive caste system which leaves entire populations as “untouchable”.
I was just thinking …
I was just thinking that myself. “Hmmm, within 3 years something major has happened, changed careers or family member died”. Well I a different star sign than the subject, in the last three years my Grandmother died and I changed careers. What adult between 20 and 45 doesn’t have a life-shift within 3 years? A divorce, a birth, a marriage, a death, a new house, a job change etc. its so easy to cold read, Its fun to watch someone like Derren Brown do it.
Any of the error …
Any of the error can be attributed to his own mistakes that any human would make. Astrology is a tough subject to master.
And you can’t find …
And you can’t find out about your past or future by looking at the stars. -Me
Which Buddha are you quoting? It sounds like he’s talking about causality. I’m talking about the testability of astrological claims.
As the saying goes …
As the saying goes “You can find out about your past birth by your present circumstances, and you can find out about your future life by your present actions” -LORD BUDDAH
No way, the fact …
No way, the fact that Barnum statements make people feel like the reading is about them is PROOF that Vedic astrology works!
They aren’t making …
They aren’t making statements about the afterlife, they’re making real, testable claims about the world in which we live.
Shermer is great to …
Shermer is great to watch and read. Everyone already knows that astrology is bs….
In that first …
In that first reading, he just kept throwing out “major life events” until one stuck. Classic cold reading.
People put on weight after 40. No kidding. Opinion-like stuff, like charisma, someone who’s supporting, etc. If you put out general stuff that applies to almost everyone (as pretty much all horoscopes do), you’re going to get good hits.
Thank you:)
Thank you:)
If you sincerely …
If you sincerely try to follow this sadhana with your heart, you will see results gradually in your life. IF YOU CAN FASTonce a week, it will help control your tongue, which will help control your food cravings , which will help control your genitals. You will be like a YOGI in no time!!!! good luck!- hari om
You must be young, …
You must be young, your looking for enlightment on the internet!! Just joking,im sure some hindu temples are in your city, you can start there. ALSO,kindly start reading the GITA or at least Yoganandas autobiography to open your mind to these things.If you want to make quick progress, you should be following the 4 principals of vedic life: NO FLESH EATING{no meat fish< eggs<nothing that had a mother!} NO INTOXICATION[no smoking!} no gambling{cheating/stealing] NO ILLICT SEX LIFE.
Ok I guess it is up …
Ok I guess it is up to me to find this truth. I for one cannot find it on the internet and I to am in need for truth when it comes to spirtuality
HUMAN life, to …
HUMAN life, to become GOD conscious, nothing else.You can juggle words forever and a day but you still wont find answers to your phil. questions.Learn from a master, not me, i am just a simple beggar, what do i really know? Once you take that step, there is no loss, so why not try?I gain nothing so why would i lie?
MOMENT of death. …
MOMENT of death. Either your correct about being “superstition” etc.. or the VEDAS are correct.TAKE YOUR PICK! I’M going to stick to my guru and his gurus guru, and his gurumaharaj etc..IM simply not as brave and intellegent as most.I have been thru so much misery and disappointment in my short life
i just cant bear sorrows anymore. I want to feel no more pain, so i am trying to go back home to GODHEAD, to vaikunta{” absence of anxiety” is the meaning} THAT is the purpose and meaning of
Can anyone prove it …
Can anyone prove it? Can you disprove? Has anyone come back from DEATH to comment on it? NO. Therefore, either live your life with no care or concern about pious activities, good karma, spiritual progress etc.. or become a devote. Your free will to choose. Your actions will determine your next birth, nothing else. I have given you simple instructions to start you off as they were given to me , as they were given to innumerable aspirants for thousands of years.The only way to find out is at the
It seems that the …
It seems that the vedic culture is linked with more super stition are they not? Where is the proof for their claims?
REIDO,where do you …
REIDO,where do you get your info from?!? I had to post again after that one! READ THE B. GITA FIRST BBEFORE YOU SPEAK ABOUT VEDIC PHIL! Also read the SRIMAD BHGAVATAM WHICH ACTUALLY EXPLAINS VARIOUS S ONE WILL BE PLACED IN ACCORDING TO ONES KARMA!!!Of course it is diffrent from the christian concept with eternal ation etc….
Lets see….this …
Lets see….this phony told someone that they made a signficant change in their life and that a woman appearing on television plucks her eyebrows.
I have to admit I get a little thrill out of watching this stuff. It makes me think that all that is between me an incredible wealth is the hint of a conscience.
..it would still …
..it would still converge to 50% if this experiment were to be repeated. why are some readings more accurate than others? what can you tell about mistakes
a more unbiased form of this experiment could be taking people from different backgrounds – guy from the african savannah, india, china, a historical figure…
The veda’s and in …
The veda’s and in Hindu’s do not believe in and many in hinduism and vedic cultures are atheist’s it is apart of the philosophy. Also there were skeptic’s in the vedic civilization because many used to question astrology, philosophies and knowledge. There is no in eastern thought/
Thank you for all …
Thank you for all your help. I will keep looking because the divine are indeed in India it seems like. But I find it odd how a catholic like your self is consulting someone from the divine of vedic culture’s
As this is the 400 …
As this is the 400 comment,i think i will stop here! Forget about trying to find your past births, your wasting your time. These are the days of the cheaters and the cheated, so if you insist on chasing the wind be advised. At least a vedic astro reading willgive you a semblance of what you did before,but dont you want to prepare for future occurences? This is the true divine blessing of jyotish. Hari om