What does anyone get out of horoscopes apart from the entertainment value?
Posted by admin on Oct 8, 2008
How many people are even aware that the named zodiacal constellations which are used in astrological forecasting (or horoscopes) no longer correspond to the segments of the zodiac represented by their signs because of the precession of the equinoxes?
Because of the precession of the equinoxes, the equinox and solstice points have each moved westward about 30 degrees so if you been born at the same time on the same day of the year 2,000 years ago, you would have been born under a different sign. And are you aware that there should be 13 signs, not 12?
Knowing this, and the fact that we know the earth is not the center of the universe, (the geo-centric model is what astrology was based up) why does a belief in horoscopes persist?
Sure, all this stuff is known but it is ignored. It has to be 12 signs because 13 is a prime number. It can't be divided so it won't work.
Humans are pattern seeking animals and this can make us gullible. We are attracted to the "too good to be true" of the paranormal. Few take the time to investigate the claims and choose blind belief. The belief persists because astrology makes money. Hundreds millions are spent on readings, books, and trinkets. It is like belonging to your own club.
It does not matter that astrology claims fail to do better than chance. If one type does not seem right then you can try another type. Which one is true does not matter. The belief system is so strong, rational thinking takes a back seat. Not only do these people believe it works, it must work.
Dude, It's just for fun; only the ignorant take it seriously.
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Supestitions are very hard for some people to give up .
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I wouldn't know. I always skip the horoscope parts in magazines. But, my friend who is really into it, says she does it to see if it will actually come true. She's fond of supernatural foretells and such, and when they actually happen, she flips out and gets scared.
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yeah i know it's called sidereal astrology, and the 13th sign is called opichius. but many astrologers believe that even though the position of everything changed, the same thing applies today.
i find that my aries friends don't act at all like pisces, and all their moon signs and other signs as well as mine fit without being shifted to fit modern astrology.
i'm supposed to be a gemini according to sidereal astrology, but i don't act like one at all, and all my planets more or less are correct.
people say that music is what keeps them going, or art or whatever. though astrology is only a temporary obsession of mine, it will always remain an interest. sometimes i'm in denial about certain things, and astrology can help me see what are the possible causes.
some of my friends have found it very difficult to get along with certain people; i looked it up and the problems they have according to not just sun sign, but also moon and rising sign and everything really explained what was the problem.
nobody takes astrology seriously because of horoscopes and many people don't even look into it, but they should stop critisizing other people for their interests. it gets really annoying.
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People believe in astrology for the simple reasons that adjustments are made accordingly as time progresses. In this day and age, people don't care what happened 2000 yrs ago and live their life in this day and age.
Even though a 1900 car has no horsepower or airconditioning, it still takes you from point A to B . Today, it is just faster but you can get more speeding tickets.
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………….O____O
…i-its just for fun >.>
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..that was maybe one of the most confusing things I have ever read..
I read it for entertainment, for me its not about stars and planets, but personality types. I read about it as a sort of guide. Mine fits my personality, and is strangely accurate for my friends and family as well. So, I take from it what I can..and thats about it.
Its a good way to label and group a personality type, and I think there is one to cover just about all the main personality types you will find in people. Im a Capricorn personality..even if I wasnt born in January..the description of a Capricorn personality type matches me. My mom is a Gemini, the Gemini personality type matches her. So its helpful for me to read how to sort out problems between those two personality types..forgetting about birth dates, stars, and planets..and looking at the psychological personality type grouping of it. I think it can be useful as a guide, but not something to take literally, or as a form of fortune telling. Its not something I would base my life on, but it is interesting, and (I believe) somewhat accurate.
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Sure, all this stuff is known but it is ignored. It has to be 12 signs because 13 is a prime number. It can't be divided so it won't work.
Humans are pattern seeking animals and this can make us gullible. We are attracted to the "too good to be true" of the paranormal. Few take the time to investigate the claims and choose blind belief. The belief persists because astrology makes money. Hundreds millions are spent on readings, books, and trinkets. It is like belonging to your own club.
It does not matter that astrology claims fail to do better than chance. If one type does not seem right then you can try another type. Which one is true does not matter. The belief system is so strong, rational thinking takes a back seat. Not only do these people believe it works, it must work.
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WOW! You're a major downer. Have a drink. Lighten-up.
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We get perspective on people's inner nature which makes us more understanding to the rest of the world. We gain insight on the basic patterns of life and all living things.
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Go here and do your Birth Chart
http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi?&cid=0xzfilegDUMPw-u1208065797&ract=/cgi/awd.cgi
You will need
Month/Day/Year of Birth
Place of Birth
Time of Birth(or use unknown)
Then ask questions here
or go to
Free Horoscopes at the top of the page
Then Click on Astro click for meanings of the Planets in their Houses
Do the research
Then come back and comment on Astrology
We mostly interpret Birth Charts Here
There are different kinds of Charts and interprtations
Progressions
Relationship
And many,many more
Use an Ephemeris for up to date placements of the planets
http://www.astro.com/swisseph/swepha_e.htm
Lot's of work for you to do
if you are CURIOUS
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It gives people hope.
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First off, we are aware of the precession of the equinoxes. Vedic astrology takes it into consideration as well. Western astrology does not take this into consideration when drawing a birthchart, as the signs are lined up as they would correspond to the seasons of the year, and so they are left as symbolic of the time of year that a person is born….so even though the sun was technically in Scorpio when I was born, due to the time of year that I was born (late fall, almost winter), I am a Sagittarius Sun. You're not laying anything new on us by bringing up the precession of the equinoxes, somebody uses this argument to try to disprove astrology on this forum on at least a weekly basis. In doing this, though, they're not really disproving astrology, they're just expressing a preference for a different method of interpretation (vedic) than western astrology, regardless of whether or not they realize this.
Further, I doubt that you're shocking anyone with the knowledge that the earth is not in fact the center of our Galaxy (not the Universe….the Sun isn't even the center of the Universe, BTW). The reason that the earth is used as the center of the birthchart is because that's where *we* are located. Having the earth in the center of the birthchart reflects that the positions of the planets (and luminaries sun and moon, asteroids, fixed stars, etc…) are being viewed from our perspective here on earth. However, if the fact that the sun is not the center of the birthchart is what deters you from astrology, perhaps you'd be interested in heliocentric astrology, in which the sun *is* used as the center of the chart.
As far as what anyone gets out of astrology goes, this would be my opinion:
Astrology, the study of the aforementioned planets, luminaries, etc…, their movements and relationship to each other, and their effects on (or reflection of) the conditions of our lives and ourselves is there as a tool for those who would be so inclined as to use it. Those who are not so inclined may choose not to do so. I believe it's called "free will". Regardless of whether or not you "believe in" astrology or choose to use this tool, the fact remains that the planets etc… will still have an effect on/reflect what is going on in your life at this moment. You don't have to believe in it. A competent astrologer can take the chart of a "non-believer" and still fairly accurately estimate what is going on in that person's life by observing the positions of the planets both at the time of birth, and using charts drawn up for the present time (called a transit chart), for the day which is the same number of days away from the date of the person's birth as the number of years of age of the person (called a solar progressed chart), …and more…
Whether or not the person for whom the chart is being interpreted "believes" in astrology is irrelevant, as astrology is not something which needs "belief". Astrology is observable at work in all things we do, whether we choose to observe it ourselves, or whether someone else is observing it for us.
What you get out of it is what you put into it, though. If you're not interested in looking past the sun sign before you dismiss astrology (and the sun sign is really the very tip of the iceberg), then you're likely not going to get all that much out of it.
I suggest getting your birthchart drawn here:
http://www.astro.com
and reading the interpretations of ALL of the planets, signs, etc….at the very least before dismissing it alltogether, though.
It's easy and it's free.
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Vedic Astrology is very precise and involves astronomy and math in detail with lots of calculations for exact planetary, stellar and star, positions and there movements considering correction for the variables you have indicated and gives a considerable degree of dependable predictability of the past, present and future. It is helpful in a way to make you aware of the high probability of the situations/events so as to be prepared and resolve the issues more effectively.
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Whilst Tropical astrology is consistently accurate (for me, at least) I see no reason to change to another method.
( Are you prone to depression? Your style is quite offensive )
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Seems to be a bit of a spirit or emotion lifter..So many people are looking for reasons to feel better about themselves and their situations reguardless of the fact that they could possibly be all lies…We are so willing to believe in anything sometimes…Just try Jesus…He never fails..
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