Comments on: Carl Sagan on Astrology

By: FantasmaBAnco

FantasmaBAnco — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:27:15 +0000

How many times do …
How many times do you have to be told, James? You have to give the author of the article, or the administrator of the site, or the URL (which can be difficult on YouTube, but not impossible). The first *page* shows 10 of 1,230,000 for “Newton and Astrology”. Which article do you mean? The first? The second? You have to be more specific if you want people to investigate your claims.

By: squee27

squee27 — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:27:15 +0000

And it doesn’t …
And it doesn’t matter anyway since p101James will never realize that even if Einstein adored astrology it would still be just as wrong.

It doesn’t matter how many nor what kind of supporters an idea has it matters if it can pass a test.

“…but Galileo liked astrology!”

It’s like talking to a wall.

By: squee27

squee27 — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:27:15 +0000

I found a bit more …
I found a bit more on Einstein and astrology. Einstein gave a short talk the extremely brief summary of which I found in the Einstein archives but no actual text.
“Dated 08/10/1938
Author Einstein, Albert

ASSESSES OSKAR ADLER AS ASTROLOGIST/ WARNS OF NEGATIVE INFLUENCE OF ASTROLOGY ON EUROPEAN POLITICS/ SUGGESTS INVITING ADLER TO PHILOSOPHY SYMPOSIUM IN USA”

The all caps are annoying but that is the way they posted it. Once again, doesn’t sound like he like astrology to me.

By: zzytrewq

zzytrewq — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:27:15 +0000

LOLjames: your …
LOLjames: your quote: “But I still believe scources [sic]can be removed or altered as well.”

So somebody goes to all the original books and news articles and changes them using typing correction fluid?

Never use the internet as a source because it is mostly bullshit when it comes to superstitious stuff. Anyone can post crap, and they do.

By: zzytrewq

zzytrewq — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:27:15 +0000

There is only one …
There is only one quote actually attributed to Einstein and it shows he had negative thoughts about it.

You can check this quote yourself if you bother to get the book

Einstein said on astrology: “The reader should note [Kepler's] remarks on astrology. They show that the inner enemy, conquered and rendered innocuous, was not yet completely dead.”

In his introduction to Carola Baumgardt’s Johannes Kepler: Life and Letters, New York, Philosophical Library, 1951.

End of debate

By: p101James

p101James — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:27:15 +0000

Googling “Newton …
Googling “Newton and Astrology” is a different page than “Astrology and Newton”.
I just let the reader draw their own conclusion, despite whatever else the article may say about the scource or the validity of the scource.
Inconculsive is still inconclusive- but if no ‘published’ scource can be found for any quote made by Newton or Einstein, I too would stop quoting them as having said something that cannot be found in any scource. But I still believe scources can be removed or altered as well.

By: p101James

p101James — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:27:15 +0000

typo: ‘achievements …
typo: ‘achievements’, not acheivements.

By: p101James

p101James — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:27:15 +0000

Question:
Because …
Question:
Because of all of his acheivements, Albert Einstein called him “an incomparable man”.
Who was he referring to?

A: Johannes Kepler, B: Sir Isaac Newton, C: Franklin D. Roosevelt, or D: Alexander Graham Bell.

By: p101James

p101James — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:27:15 +0000

sqwee27-
How many …
sqwee27-
How many times have you used the same axiom for different reasons?
Einstein said it for more than one reason. One was “for” astrology.
There just isn’t any reason for anyone to speak for Einstein but Einstein.
I guess science wishes he never said it, and will do anything to convince you he did not. I’m not so stupid.

By: squee27

squee27 — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:27:15 +0000

Einstein’s comment …
Einstein’s comment about God and Dice has been shown by physicists, historians, philosophers, and biographers to be about the statistical nature of the universe. His own writings also bear this out.

At least make an attempt to read “Does God play dice?”. It would be good for you.